Cleric,

Last first. George Bush was about as honest a president as we've had in my lifetime. Yep, he is a screw-up in many ways and I'm dead set against many thing's he's done. This last bailout thing drove him pretty low on my opinion meter, damn near bottom. But, the man has been, from all I can tell, very honest.

If you don't pay someone for their services then you render that person's service to you valueless. This is a tricky concept. It doesn't matter who pays them, for you, the service is valueless. Not only is there a problem in how this effects individual usage consequential to cost/value perceptions, but, multiply the user by two-hundred million and you have one nasty zeitgeist.

Here is a large chunk of the desire for universal health care. You see, there are behaviors that are very dangerous. Male homosexual sex is one. There are many more. Sex without commitment is another. Promiscuous sex is another. Skateboarding down a hand-rail, smoking-shooting-drinking dope, and on and on. And the mind-set of those who do these things, and of those who support the doing of these things, demands a justification for them. At present they are demonstrably dangerous. But, if we get UHC then the problem will no longer exist, at least it will feel as if it no longer exists.

UHC is an obvious attempt at the implementation of Utopianist theology. And no healthy government should implement a religious tenet so convoluted as that. Yea, 'do not murder' is fine, but complex tenets that are unique to a religious movement, hell no!

I'll get you the info about Exon's taxes, but it is probably pretty easy for you to find out.

Also, no, that wasn't me. When you see the video of the guy pissing down McCain's leg, that will be me.

Joel.

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